Thursday, January 25, 2007

Investment Ideas for 2007 Invited

Yesterday I went to an investment seminar held by Quam. It was a slight disappointment that it lasted only an hour or maybe less, while it took me 1 hour of commuting time back and forth and some 20 minutes of waiting. Having said this, just one good investment idea would make all these troubles worthwhile.

The four sectors they have picked for 2007 are banks, automobiles, infrastructure construction, and ports/shipping. Banks are no longer bargains though they may still be good long term investments. I've mentioned some shipping plays already and ports are more expensive though consistent. So today I'd focus on the automobiles and infrastructure construction sectors. I'm only starting on these sectors so if you have any good ideas as to where or what to look, let me know.

Everyone knows about the China automobiles growth story so there's no repeating here. It's another battlefield over-crowded with domestic and foreign producers all trying to get a bigger slice of this growing pie. I used to like Denway despite I could not understand its accounts at all. All important financial information is condensed in one line as 'investment in an associate', although I think this structure had nothing to do with the management but rather the government's policy that forbids foreign majority ownership. I like the chance of Honda in China because of its success in North America and here in HK. However Denway is only a manufacturer so there's a cap in profit potential. Then I found out Dongfeng also produces automobiles for Honda, hence making Denway's identity confusing. That of Dongfeng is even more confusing as it also produces cars for Nissans, Peugeot, and now there's talks with Volvo too. The market though seems to like this blurred identity and has rewarded it with a higher valuation. Brilliance should have a good future with its JV with BMW but that is offset by its problems with its own brand luxury sedans. I don't know much about Qingling nor Isuzu other than that its profit is on a declining trend. Other the other hand there are pure domestic brands like Geely and Greatwall but I'm doubtful of their cars' quality and low price strategy over the long run. 'When the tide comes all boats shall rise', it may be the case here but I'd rather be waiting on the shore at the moment.

Take a step step and look at some ancillary companies. I think there's a listed company running Benz dealerships in China and Hong Kong. It may be a good proxy bet after further study. Norstar makes car brakes and has proven itself in the US replacement market. It's starting to develop the domestic market too. But it seems to have too much dealings with its owners. IPE claims itself to be an autopart supplier but the numbers suggest it's at least one or two years away. Weichai makes heavy truck engines and is technologically advanced with its cooperation with German counterparts in developing Euro IV environmental standard compliant engines. But it's price has advanced too far ahead. There may be some good companies in making windshields, tires, electronics, die casting moulds, or other autoparts, lying out there waiting to be uncovered. I'll just have to keep looking.

Infrastructure construction sector is heavily favored as under the latest China 5-year plan the transportation/logistics network is the focus of development. We'll see more roads, railways, bridges, ports, airports get built over the next 5 years. However it's hard find any bargain here. For constructors we have China Communication Construction and for traders we have CNBM. Both seem fully priced in right now but the Quam team still prefers CCC for its irreplaceable leader status. CIMH the infrastructure machinery maker is just as richly priced. China State Construction sounds similar to CCC but actually derives most businesses from HK and the international market. PYI is more a landlord than constructor with heavy investments in the Yangtze River Delta. There are numerous HK construction plays but I doubt they can make it successfully into the China market. I like Shui On Construction for its cement plants are in around Sichuan and the southwest which should benefit from the development of the neighbour 2nd tier cities. Anhui on the other hand is a bit pricey which according to Quam has a prospective p/e of over 20x. Guangshen Railway, pricey, Zhuzhou CSR Times, crazy.

This post is not very organized and coherent, but it's intended as a brainstorming session to invite views from readers.

Comments:
PE is meaningless. I prefer looking at expected PE, of coz this involve some homework.

This year my investment targets are some high dividends industrials, PRC properties (PRC officials already admitted more harsher government measures are coming, lets wait.) and some raw material stocks.
 
Disappointed about Quam for many years ago...

They recommanded ports/shipping?! haha...

The first sector I won't choose this year!
 
I also attended this seminar. I have a little disappointed because the content of seminar is the same as their new published book "問鼎中原".
 
goal goal and wing hing, i only went there because the seminar was organized by Quam Asset Management not Quam Research, for I think the QR quality has dropped under the new head. QR now is very share price driven and they seldom have a contrarian view.
 
wing hing,

what's your cup of tea for 2007?
 
How about MINTH Group(#425), It's good in my opinion.
 
"Zhuzhou CSR Times, crazy"

The price is quite high but it's worth to hold if you have purchased its shares.

When a 300km/h train atarting operate from Taipei towards GaoXung in Taiwan, it seems that there's an interesting prospect if the same happening in China, like a TianJin-to-Beijing line; Beijing-to-Shanghai line; Shanghai-to-Jiangsu line, etc. And more City will build rail services like MTR in Hong Kong.

If the future of the implementation of railway in China follows like JR of Japan, I bet the return of this sector is dramatically high.
 
Isubcribed 1800 (CCC) ipo with stagging loan. Main reason backing my faith on 1800 are:

1. Industry Leader
2. Making profit
3. State Department has an untold agenda to create competition which 1800 will be benfited (but not sure of the extent).

The downside risk is 1800 has risen almost double from its IPO price which little room for price gain. And if "A"share continues to correct in the next few days, H shares bound to follow (with variance).


CSR is way too high, its profit (irrespective past and predicted) are far too less to sustain its price.
 
agree. CSR issue 40% more new shares, that means the interim results EPS would be even diluted by near half. the pro-forma PE now is near 60x, near 2628
 
It is really a nice blog. Keep it up!

My favourite picks in 2007 would still be coal producer like 1088 and insurance company, 2318.

I have picked 1398, 2727, 1088 in the late of 2006. Frankly, I have sold all the CCCC (1800), becoz domestic projects can't support this price level
 
the only reason I attend that seminar is Vincent Lam.
I appreciate his value invest approach.
Abacus, do you subscribe their (QR)service?

by the way, what do you think about 1800(CCC)?
 
all highhands,

i think 425 and 2727 is worth a look. i like casanove as a sponsor and 2727's problem seems relating to top management only and not affecting underlying business. i'll spend some time studying them between now and the next correction phase.

i still subscribe to QR but i read their research less often now. everything now is a hold, no buy, no sell. but at least i can still get basic info and stats.

1800 is beyond my ability to analyze at this price. current valuation is based on hope and hope is intangible and has no limit. if u still hold the ipo allotment then feel free to enjoy the ride. i sold mine on 1st day already.
 
The competitive edge of 2727 is so strong, if your cross-out the management problem ^_^! Their own research institute is a top-tier one in China, they share alot of knowledge with foreign companies, Siemems, GE and Mitsuibishi. Other than the nuclear plant projects, they still have strong footprints in heavy-industry.

In general, they have technologies edge which cannot be removed, though the management team has got its problem.
 
1800 is a cyclic, please note that the business is very much one-off, what is left after 11-5. 4 years left now, what price you will pay for a retail if you assume there are 4 more years to boom? Currently the PE is around 20-25, but double after kicking out the investment gains from Chinese investments stocks.
 
2727 is at top, that's truth but it's very complicated internally and many loophole...

I like 1072 more although it also has some bad news behind.

Let's see...
 
If you guys think corporate governance is important, just forget 2727. Frankly, I lost confidence and patience on them.
 
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